Between the two of them, Jerry Seinfeld and Steve Martin have nearly a century of experience in the delicate art of telling jokes. In a conversation with Susan Morrison during the 2020 New Yorker Festival, they discussed their long careers, learning how to adjust to new cultural forces, and the process of aging. “It’s harder for me to be an iconoclast, or a critic, now than it used to be,” Martin said. But for Jerry Seinfeld, the heart of comedy—writing—hasn’t changed. “There’s no rhyme or reason to it. Nobody knows how to do it. Nobody has figured out anything,” he told Morrison. “I kind of like that complete chaos.”
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